Friday 6 March 2009

Dr James White and his King James onlyism fallacy

5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:5))


I applaud Dr.James White for the work he is doing for the Lord. I must say he has written wonderful articles about Catholicism, Mormonism etc. However, I find his attack of the KJV and his notion of ‘’KJV onlyism Movement’’ very ridiculous and intellectually hypocritical . Do not be surprised when KJV critics like Dr.James White embrace ecumenism. Despite their critiques of Catholicism, when it comes to the bible issue, they are working for Rome. Time will tell and remember there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed.

Who is Dr.James White?

http://www.aomin.org/articles/bio.html

ARE THERE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES
IN THE BIBLE VERSIONS?


http://www.safeguardyoursoul.com/html/bible_versions.html

BIBLE VERSES THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED

http://www.1611kingjamesbible.com/altered_verses.html/


Dr. James White’s KJV onlyism Movement notion is indeed an error in reasoning

http://vintage.aomin.org/kjvo.html

You know we must prove all things and therefore I expect all the saints who visit my blog to test all my sources with the word of God. Criticism means accepting what you find acceptable and rejecting what you find unacceptable after a critical assessment. Criticism does not mean that you point out only the negative. For example Dr. Hank Hennegraff has written wonderful books titled: Christianity in Crisis and Counterfeit revival. I highly recommend these books however I find Hank’s rebelling of the KJV as an old translation very ridiculous. I also find Hank’s reluctance to rebel the catholic Church a cult very laughable

Christian Research Institute (CRI)
Ecumenical Fellowship With Rome


http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cri/withrome.htm

Roman Catholicism-Past and Present

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4460962555053503132

SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, ECUMENISM, AND HELL

http://www.wayoflife.org/files/category-cults.html


Should a Pastor Be questioned

http://www.wayoflife.org/files/1a7ecae20e16e48abdd701020452e064-74.html


BE WARE OF EMERGING CHURCH - video by Roger Oakland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idZCcg3MvEI

The Church is Changing, What is Emerging?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Quyslu5P0k&feature=related

http://www.safeguardyoursoul.com/html/rick_warren__purpose_driven_de.html

DR James white’s fallacies

Dr. James White argues that:

The “Textus Receptus” was created by the work of a Roman Catholic priest and scholar, the “Prince of the Humanists,” Desiderius Erasmus. Erasmus printed and published the first edition of the Greek NT in 1516. The 3rd edition of his text was particularly influential. A total of five editions came from him; after him, Stephanus (1555) and Beza (1598) edited the work, and it was used by the KJV translators for their NT (1604-1611).(http://files.aomin.org/KJV1.ppt#272,20,Slide 20)


Dear Dr. James White, isn’t it laughable to hear some one urgue that the KJV is not a good translation because it is based on the work of a roman catholic priest Desiderius Erasmus. Dear Dr. James White how come the KJV which is based on the work of Catholic priest calls Peter a stone, while the NIV which has no Roman catholic connection??? Calls peter a Rock. Even a child can see that the NIV is based on catholic corrupted sources. Check out this

John 1:42 (King James Version)
42And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.

Oh! What a Roman catholic who does not know that Peter is the Rock!!!!


Check out Dr. White’s NIV

John 1:42 (New International Version)

42And he brought him to Jesus.
Jesus looked at him and said, "You are Simon son of John. You will be called Cephas" (which, when translated, is Peter[a]).


Footnotes:
a. John 1:42 Both Cephas (Aramaic) and Peter (Greek) mean rock.

John 1:42 (American Standard Version)


42 He brought him unto Jesus. Jesus looked upon him, and said, Thou art Simon the son of John: thou shalt be called Cephas (which is by interpretation, Peter).

The truth is unlike Martin Luther who fought the catholic church from out, Erasmus fought the catholic church from within. In fact some of his books were declared heretic by the catholic church.


Was Erasmus a good Roman catholic?

http://www.chick.com/reading/books/158/158_57.asp


Dr. James white further fallaciously argues that:

KJV Only literature abounds with examples of circular argumentation at this point. Keep in mind that for the vast majority of KJV Only advocates, this is the starting point in their thought:
The King James Bible ALONE
=
The Word of God ALONE
When we realize this, we can understand why they argue as they do. (http://files.aomin.org/KJV1.ppt#277,27,Slide 27)


The result of this mindset is seen in the language used in this debate: instead of asking “What did John or Paul or Peter originally write” we hear about how modern translations have REMOVED this or DELETED that or ADDED this or CHANGED that. All these loaded words assume that the KJV is the standard by which all others are to be judged. Some KJV Only folks go so far as to say the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts themselves must be judged by comparison with the KJV! (http://files.aomin.org/KJV1.ppt#278,28,Slide 28)

Well then, has God preserved His Word or not? That’s the question KJV Only folks always come back to. Unfortunately, they always seem to assume that unless you have a perfect English translation, you don’t have a perfect Bible. Of course, English did not come into existence until more than 1,000 years after the last words of Scripture were written. Hence, making a perfect English translation the standard is obviously an error. (http://files.aomin.org/KJV1.ppt#297,45,Slide 45)


Truth

KJV advocates are in favour of any translation in any language say; Luganda , German, Swahili, Norwegian, Polish etc as long as it is based on the Textus receptus(received text) and the Masoretic text. No sound KJV Advocate can argue that the KJV is superior to its source i.e. the manuscripts from which it is based. Dr.James white urgues that although THE BLOOD is deleted in col.14, in the NIV, it is aslo in Eph.1:7. Doesn't scripture say that EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE(Pro.30:5). If every word of God is pure, it is logical to ask, why the pure word of God(BLOOD)is missing in Col.1:14.How can you know what what John or Paul wrotewithout testing the sources. Dear Dr.James white, do you think that John believed that Peter is the rock of the church as NIV alleges in John 1:42. Dear Bro,you have terribly errored in your reasoning.


The KJV only fallacy exposed

Dr James White and other critics make arguments to the effect that KJV onlyists believe that the KJV is the only divinely inspired bible and that it is the only accurate bible. This is very ridiculous, we KJV advocates stick to the KJV on the argument of preservation. We believe that God has preserved his word as he promised in THE Received text and mosoretic text . I agree with Brother Cloud that ‘’The Masoretic Hebrew Old Testament and Greek Received New Testament translated properly into any language is the preserved Word of God in that language, whether it is German, Spanish, French, Korean, or Nepali.’’ KJV advocates are not arguing that the KJV is superior to the Hebrew and Greek texts upon which it was based. We, KJV advocates argue that the best English translation is the KJV because it is based in the received and Mosoretic text . Any translation in Luganda, Swhahili, Igbo, Chinese etc is okay for KJV advocates as long as it is based on the received and Masoretic text . Therefore the arguments of people like Dr.James White are very illogical and incredibly nonsensical.



Bro. David Cloud exposes the errors in the KJV onlyism notion

http://www.wayoflife.org/files/8852d249083b7bd464d227819e259c30-212.html


THE HISTORY OF THE NEPALI EDITION OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE

http://www.wayoflife.org/files/8198e3e61a37b07e196896e5720f040a-239.html

ROME'S PERSECUTION OF THE BIBLE

http://www.wayoflife.org/files/4ef3f30d5ea4253059dc014c8c9f6db3-79.html

THE UNITED BIBLE SOCIETIES AND ROME : ROME CONTROLS BIBLE SOCIETIES


http://www.wayoflife.org/files/79968cff0663d1d4d8ad788663c5f198-7.html

Bible version battles: Rome and the corruption of bibles

http://www.wayoflife.org/files/category-bible-versions.html


The Origin of King James Onlyism

http://www.av1611.org/vance/kjv_only.html


The Bible version controversy

http://www.av1611.org/othpubl.html


DEBUNKING THE argument that ‘’KJV IS AS GOOD AS THE NIV AND NASB’’ ARGUMENT

KJV critics have failed to prove that the KJV is a fraud translation and so they have turned to the argument that the KJV is as accurate as the NIV and NASB. This is an incredible error in reasoning and you do not have to be PhD in theology to see this.


ARE THERE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES
IN THE BIBLE VERSIONS?


http://www.safeguardyoursoul.com/html/bible_versions.html

TAKE HEED AFRICA; The devil has hidden the bible controversy issue from you for sometime. It is time to wake and do some research


http://takeheedafrica.blogspot.com/2008/03/changing-bible.html

http://watchmanafrica.blogspot.com/2007/01/new-king-james-version-nkjv-devils.html


Below I examine how the devil is trying to compromise God's stand on Homosexuality. Homosexuality has always been and will always be an abomination before God. See, how the translations are very different.

Look at these verses in King James version

And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.(I Kings 14:24)

And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made. (I Kings 15:12)


And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land(I Kings 22:46)


Look at the same verses in the Counterfeit New king James Version

And there were also perverted persons in the land. They did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel.(I Kings 14:24)



And he banished the perverted persons from the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.(I Kings 15:12)


And the rest of the perverted persons, who remained in the days of his father Asa, he banished from the land(I Kings 22:46)


Look at the same verses in the counterfeit NIV

There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites .(I Kings 14:24)


He expelled the male shrine prostitutes from the land and got rid of all the idols his fathers had made .(I Kings 15:12 )


He rid the land of the rest of the male shrine prostitutes who remained there even after the reign of his father Asa (I Kings 22:46 )


Look at the same verses in the counterfeit NASB

1 Kings 14:24 (New American Standard Bible)
24There were also male cult prostitutes in the land. They did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD dispossessed before the sons of Israel.


1 Kings 15:12 (New American Standard Bible)
12(He also put away the male cult prostitutes from the land and removed all the idols which his fathers had made.


1 Kings 22:46 (New American Standard Bible)

46The remnant of the sodomites who remained in the days of his father Asa, he expelled from the land.


HOW RIDICULOUS!!!!!

1 Kings 14:24 , the KJV uses the Word Sodomites, the NIV uses male shrine prostitutes and the NASB uses male cult prostitutes. It is ridiculous to deduce that they are all good. How can they be equally good when they are giving different translations? Even a 12 year old child can see that these bibles are talking different things and can not equally be uncorrupted.

THINK I'M KIDDING: SEE HOW THIS GAY CHURCH DEFENDS HOMOSEXUALITY USING THE PERVERTED BIBLES

http://www.cathedralofhope.com/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=225&srcid=305

Paul's statement in Romans 1:18-32 has been taken as the strongest New Testament rejection of homosexuality. He is concerned about the influence of the pagan culture on the Roman Christians. After giving a detailed description of a world that “exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator,” he continues, “Therefore, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lusts for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty of their perversion.”

A complete reading of these passages, in their original context, clearly shows that what Paul was actually referring to was homosexual temple prostitution, which was performed by various cults (though far more cults used heterosexual prostitution). Again, Paul is not referring to same-sex love, and he clearly has no concept of persons for whom this lifestyle is “natural.”

Paul's other reference to homosexual acts in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is similar to 1 Timothy 1:8-11. These two passages contain lists of persons to be excluded from the Realm of God. The interpretation of these passages depends on two Greek words that have always presented a problem for translators. In the King James Version, they are translated “effeminate” and “abusers of themselves with mankind.” In the Revised Standard Version, they were combined and rendered as “homosexuals,” however, these are not the Greek words for homosexual, so these translations reflects the scholars' bias. The New International Version illustrates the difference in these two words by translating them “male prostitute” and “homosexual offenders.” The Jerusalem Bible uses the terms “catamites and “sodomites.” Catamites were youth kept especially for sexual purpose, who were usually paid large sums of money. Neither passage refers to persons of same-sex orientation but to people who used their sexuality for personal gain.



Do not be fooled buy the KJV onlyism , it is simply an error in reasoning. I urge you to start advocating for the translation of the received and masoretic text in your language. I play that we shall have a bible in Swahili and Luganda based on received and the masoretic text soon.


God bless you.